The Dr. Jeff Show Ep. 80 – John Amanchukwu

Episode 80: Summary & Transcript

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Episode Summary

This episode features John Amanchukwu, a Nigerian-American who became a Christian at age 19 while playing football at North Carolina State University, where he was described as pound-for-pound the strongest man on the team. He is now a preacher of the gospel and author of the upcoming book Eraced, which examines the connections between critical race theory and abortion. The main discussion centers on John’s argument that both critical race theory and abortion are rooted in racism.

Amanchukwu traces abortion’s racist origins to Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, who believed abortion was necessary in black communities and wrote about using charismatic black doctors and preachers to promote it among African Americans. John contends that the church should address racial reconciliation through the gospel rather than secular ideologies, arguing that critical race theory has no place in Christian denominations.

Episode Transcript

Ryan Dobson (00:00):
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Dr. Jeff Myers (00:39):
I don’t know if we’ve ever had a more controversial show. I’ve got to be honest with you. We’re going to be talking about critical race theory and abortion with our guest John Amanchukwu, and he makes the claim that both of these ideas are based in racism and he proves it. I’m stunned by what he’s sharing in this talk, and I know we’re going to get a ton of calls and emails about this, but listen, we’ve got to do it.

This is the show, the Dr. Jeff Show podcast, where I interview major thought leaders to talk about how our worldview changes everything, and we got to talk about the tough issues. This is the podcast. You can also get on Spotify, Apple, Google, Edifi, Liftable, wherever you get your podcasts. If you would leave a positive review, tell your friends about it.

Probably going to want to tell your friends about this show, especially if they can handle it if they’ve got the fortitude, because we’re not talking about easy things on the show. We’ve got to talk about how our worldview changes everything, and that’s exactly what we’re going to do. Please welcome John Amanchukwu to the show. Thank you for being on the Dr. Jeff Show today.

John Amanchukwu (01:49):
Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Jeff. It’s been a wonderful time getting to know Summit Ministries. I met your beautiful bride, Stephanie, and then I met the dog, and now I get to meet you. I am excited.

Dr. Jeff Myers (02:03):
Well, if you met Stephanie, you met the sunshine in this relationship and she really enjoyed getting to hear your presentation. She said, “John is bold and he has got a perspective on this that is unique and that we all need to hear.” So I’m looking forward to just continuing that relationship with you and Summit Ministries, and thank you for investing in the students who were out here.

John Amanchukwu (02:31):
Yes, we had a blast being able to teach them about critical race theory and abortion was a joy for me, but also the time that I was able to spend with them arm wrestling, all of the guys. And so I did a little competition to see who could get a free copy of my book, but I told them, whoever beats me in arm wrestling, you’ll get a copy of Eraced.

And I stand six foot four, right at 258 pounds, a former football player at North Carolina State University, pound for pound, the strongest man on the football team. And after 18 guys, I said, you know what? We need to change this match and let’s move it from a test of brawn to intellectual ability. And the guys they lost, a young lady quickly answered the question that I gave her. So the guys, they got a good exercise in that day, but they didn’t get the book.

Dr. Jeff Myers (03:30):
I love it. And that’s one of the most fun things about Summit is how you see these people who are speakers, authors, you’ve seen them on television, and then all of a sudden they’re right there with you and you can ask them whatever question you want. If you have something that is really tough that you want to share, you can share it. It just really makes it feel kind of like a family reunion.

John Amanchukwu (03:57):
Yes, yes, it does. I enjoyed myself thoroughly and I look forward to getting my family there hopefully soon.

Dr. Jeff Myers (04:04):
Yeah. Yeah, we’ll look forward to that. t critical race theory and abortion. And as I was mentioning John before the show, we have a handful of people who have seen the connection between CRT and abortion and recognize the racist implications of both of them, but very few people who’ve actually put words to this. And now you have, and this book comes out this fall so people will be able to read it. And I have a feeling it’s going to really change a lot of minds and hearts, and I’m super excited about it and I am glad that we get to talk a little bit in advance of the book’s release about the topic.

John Amanchukwu (04:47):
Yes, I look forward to it. It’s the right book at the right time. Look at the overturning of Roe v. Wade. I mean, I would’ve never been able to predict that that would take place at such a time as this, but God knew when he gave me the vision to author the book.

Dr. Jeff Myers (05:04):
Yes, this is one of the greatest moments of our time. It has triggered a lot of people, and you wonder why they are so upset, why it is that keeping the death count of babies is so important to some people, that high death count. Why is that so important to them? And so anyway, it is exactly the right discussion at the right time. What’s the best way to start with this? It’d be best to start with CRT, what that is, what you see as the problems there, or do you want to talk about the racist roots of abortion? I’d love to go whatever direction you think is the most natural way to process the issue.

John Amanchukwu (05:52):
Well, we’ll start first and foremost, I’ll give you a definition of my name and then I’ll tell you why I wrote the book Erase. We’ll start there and from there we can jump on the issues and the topics as we flow. So my full name is John Amanchukwu, Sr. I had to add the senior part, right? Kaku means I will keep trusting and pleading in God, and Amanchukwu means I know God.

My father is from Nigeria and he came to the States in the seventies, and I’m glad to be able to say that I do know God as my personal savior. I’ve been a believer since the age of 19. I tell people all the time that I got saved early and often, but it wasn’t until the age of 19 where I kind of got it right and moved from being a marginal Christian to being one that really professed the faith and lived up to what I was brought into.

Dr. Jeff Myers (06:59):
This book, John. Let me just mention before you get into the book, you were a student athlete, as you mentioned.

John Amanchukwu (07:05):
Yes, exactly.

Dr. Jeff Myers (07:06):
Which I admire student athletes so much. I was a professor because they have a full-time job as an athlete and a full-time job as a student. But you were also growing spiritually at that point. You were in college at that point, at age 19.

John Amanchukwu (07:22):
Yes, that’s right. And I was playing football at North Carolina State University under coach Chuck Amato. His nickname was Chuck the Chest. He had a big burly chest like this. He was a strong alpha male. He’s an Italian, and so he didn’t take any tea for the fever, but he was a phenomenal coach. And to be able to live out my faith in college was amazing.

I can remember at the age of 19 and 20 as a new convert going into the racket ballroom on Monday nights after football practice at about 9:30, 10:00 PM, grass stain still on me. I’m sweating. The players are as well. And we’ll go into the racquetball room, get on our knees and we’ll pray and call out before God. And then on Tuesdays, I led a Bible study on campus. Now I’ll be the first to tell you that I wasn’t proficient in the scriptures. I didn’t have all of the knowledge that I do today. I graduated from Liberty University as well, but I didn’t have that degree at that time. I had Jesus in the belly of the whale.

(08:39):
I had Moses walking on water. But listen, I had a zeal for the things of God, but along the way I got things right and in their proper place, but I was able to reach so many people on our college campus because I was passionate about my faith. And people aren’t drawn to Christ unless they see the light in us, and it’s that light that draws mankind. So I say to everyone that will listen to this, you don’t have to know the Bible from Genesis to Revelations, just have a relationship with God. Get to know his word steadily and God will anoint you and grace you to be a discipler of men and an evangelist for God.

Dr. Jeff Myers (09:26):
Yes. Yeah. Well, you invest in young adults a lot. You are a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And I’d love to hear the story of how this book emerged because the number one criticism that I hear from people is you people are too political, you’re too political. And all of a sudden you come out as a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ with a book and people are going to stick that label all over you. And I mean you’re walking right into a bus saw and you’re doing it because you’re super passionate about a message that is rarely communicated fully and completely. Tell us a little bit about it.

John Amanchukwu (10:14):
So during the summer of 2020, as we all watched and gagged on the role that BLM, Black Lives Matter and Antifa played as they ruled the night as anarchists burning down city after city, burning down furniture stores and CVS pharmacy stores and looting stores, just all of these things taking place. We even saw governors and mayors who were on the left stand back and stand aloof and tell the police to stand back as well. And they also marched and shouted, defund the police. We all watched that.

(10:58):
As one people in America. But during that timeframe, on a Saturday morning at one of the busiest abortion clinics in the southeast, a father, a black father in particular approached me and said, why are you out here fighting a white man’s issue? Now, when he said that to me, I’ll be honest, several emotions came through me. Number one, I was appalled. Number two, I was angry. I’ll be honest. The Bible says, be angry, but sin not, and don’t allow the sun to go down on your wrath. But in that moment, I was angry.

When you consider this, on that Saturday morning, 70% of the people outside trying to save these babies were white, but nearly 80 to 85% of the mothers in the clinic on that Saturday morning were black. And this black man is going to walk up to another black man who was a true minority on that day and tell me that I’m fighting a white man’s issue because I want babies to live.

(12:08):
Now, if I were to ask him what is the definition of critical race theory, more than likely he would probably say, I don’t know what you mean. I can’t define it. But on that day, he was a walking poster child for all things. CRT critical race theory sees racism in all areas and in all facets of life, even when a black man wants to save babies at the abortion clinic.

Now, when I go to the clinic and our church has done this work for the past 10 years through the Upper Room Church of God in Christ, we go to a local abortion clinic called a Woman’s Choice Clinic of Raleigh. Don’t be fooled by that name because there’s only one choice that that clinic cares about and that is abortion. Whatever brings in money, that is the choice that they care about. And we’ve been down at the abortion clinic for the past 10 years, and while being there on that day, this black father, he could not see that he was number one, aborting his posterity and his heritage, but he could find a way through fallacies.

(13:20):
He was able to say that I was down there fighting a white man’s issue. Now, critical race theory places racism everywhere. It also believes that whites are also inherently racist. It labels whites as racist. Now, I believe this, I believe that racism is not a skin tone or a color. Racism is sin. The Bible says in Romans 3:23 that all including all mankind, all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. And when it talks about sin there, it’s talking about sin in general, all kinds of sin or evil or opportunities where we may miss the mark. And this also includes the sin of racism.

But I’ve come to know this, that not only can whites be racist, blacks can be racist, Asians can be racist, Hispanics can be racist. Pacific Islanders can be racist. All people can carry an heir of prejudice and or bias that is detrimental towards our brothers and sisters in Christ. And as we look at critical race theory, it’s imperative that we point out that it is racism. I also call it the Jim Crow era in reverse. Blacks are now doing to whites what was once done to them. America is the greatest nation on the face of the planet. However, it’s not a perfect nation.

(15:01):
But I believe this: You can love a thing and or a person that isn’t perfect. As husbands, we know that our spouses love us and Dr. Jeff, we’re not perfect. And so if our spouses can love us, we can surely love this country. You got it. When I look at it, America is a place where blacks thrive. When you consider slavery in this nation and where it stands, we’re far from where we used to be, but when you look at the world as a whole, if you want to point at slavery, today is more so in African countries and on the continent of Africa where these things still persist.

I still believe, and I say again, that America is the greatest nation ever, and there are people who seek to use critical race theory as a tool to cause blacks to hate this nation, to cause blacks to support the 1619 project versus 1776. Right. I also believe this, Dr. Jeff, that this is the church’s finest hour and the church should have an answer to this issue of racial reconciliation. I do know that critical race theory is an answer to something, but it’s the wrong answer and it’s time for us to stop taking theories and making them facts. Okay.

Dr. Jeff Myers (16:41):
You’ve pointed out something that I think is, I just wanted to jump in here real quick. You pointed out something that I don’t think very many Christians understand. CRT is not trying to promote racial unity.

John Amanchukwu (16:56):
It’s not.

Dr. Jeff Myers (16:57):
CRT is trying to promote racial disunity.

John Amanchukwu (17:00):
Yes, yes.

Dr. Jeff Myers (17:01):
What’s the end game? So in the church, we should be focused on racial reconciliation and unity. If CRT is trying to promote disunity, why? What do its proponents hope to accomplish?

John Amanchukwu (17:18):
Well, the end goal that I strongly believe in is that they seek to turn blacks against whites in general, but against white Republicans in particular. Okay, alright. Okay. So it comes, it’s political. It is, which forces the church to have to be political and discuss the issue and talk about it. Right. The church should have an answer for these things and we have to address them.

When you look at the Bible in the first place, as we talk about this whole issue of the church becoming political, Elijah spoke to kings, Jeremiah spoke to kings, Isaiah spoke to kings, Jesus spoke to kings, political structures were dealt with. And so I think the church should be comfortable in doing the same, but also pointing people towards the cross, rather towards a donkey or an elephant. Yes. Yes.

Dr. Jeff Myers (18:18):
Yep. Yeah, I get that. Okay, that makes perfect sense. Well then I’m sorry I interrupted you when you were just starting to talk about how significant racial reconciliation is in the church. I just wanted people to know that that’s not the goal of CRT. If you think that promoting CRT and writing checks to Black Lives Matter is going to somehow promote racial reconciliation, you’re actually doing the opposite of what you should be doing.

John Amanchukwu (18:46):
Yeah. This is true. I say it like this, blacks have become the cheap prostitutes of the Democratic party. They screw us and barely pay us, but we keep coming back for more. The left seeks through Marxism and those godless ideologies that come along with it, they seek to pigeonhole blacks and keep us in this never ending state of anger and animus towards whites because of the past.

And so now, Dr. Jeff, I’m supposed to hate you because you are a white man and I’m supposed to view you through the lenses of being a racist or a grand wizard through the KKK because you are a white, and although you are born again and Christ has set you free from your sin and you’re walking in the newness of Christ, you are still racist because you are white. That’s an awful ideology. I say to every Christian denomination, that critical race theory has no place in our pulpits.

(20:03):
It has no place in our denominations. God gave us the word of God, alright? And the Bible tells us this, that we shall love our neighbors as ourselves. If we do that well, we won’t need critical race theory and intersectionality and all of these woke terms that seek to divide. Critical race theory is not divinely inspired. We are closed canon preachers. We don’t bring in secular terms to reach the masses. The answer for racial reconciliation is not wrapped up in the Democratic party. It’s not wrapped up in the words of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and all of these race hustlers in the BLM movement. It’s not wrapped up in those things.

The answer for racial reconciliation is in the gospel. But the church has moved away from teaching the scriptures towards now becoming propagandists and pundits who now parrot terms and ideologies that they have received from people who are woke. I want to say this again. Critical race theory has no place in our local assemblies. And oftentimes when you talk to people who support CRT, they’ll tell you CRT is not in the public school system. And I’ve never seen it there, but critical race theory is a floating mass.

(21:53):
It’s elusive. You can’t really pin it down because it’s ever evolving. You find it in courses when it comes to diversity, equity, and inclusion. You oftentimes see critical race theory in there. And really what critical race theory is, it’s a lens by which they explain power structures. And so whites are the majority and they have the dominant foothold in America, and they have the majority of the economic power in this country. So therefore they are considered as racist and dominant things of that nature.

But I don’t see myself through the lenses of critical race theory. I see myself through the lenses of the word of God. The Bible says that I’m a chosen generation, I’m a royal priesthood and I’m a peculiar people. And we cannot win the loss. We cannot disciple the world using these terms like critical race theory. If you suffer from white guilt, you can’t be my friend. I’m going to delete you from off of my phone and I’ll tell you why. If you suffer from white guilt as a white man, then that means that I should suffer from black shame.

(23:17):
There’s nothing shameful about this pigmentation, this melanin that God gave me. There’s nothing shameful about this. And so why should you feel guilty that God has made you white? And the words of James Brown, I’m black and I’m proud. I’m proud to be a black man in this country called America. Listen, I went to Nigeria in 2003, okay? And listen, I was there for two weeks and I’ll be the first to tell you that when I got back to the states, I could have kissed the bathroom of a 7-Eleven. I was so happy, so happy to be back in the US. We have it better than what we know.

This is a blessed country. It’s a wonderful country. Consider our wonderful documents and our Constitution that gives us these rights that we have. Now, there was a period of time where blacks did not receive the full deposit of the Constitution, but it was the constitution within itself that even eradicated that. And when we properly explained and interpreted our constitution, blacks were able to have the rights that we so freely receive today. But listen, I don’t want to go back to the Jim Crow era. I don’t want to go back. And critical race theory seeks to take us back.

Dr. Jeff Myers (24:59):
Now, how is that? Explain that a little bit because that’s a powerful point. But if I were to try to talk to my friends about that, I’m not sure I could reproduce the logic of it.

John Amanchukwu (25:11):
Right? That’s good. Well, here’s the thing. The Jim Crow area time period where blacks had to go to separate water fountains, they couldn’t integrate in the public school system. Many of the rights that everyone else had, they were not able to tap in on or receive. Critical race theory seeks to create these divisions, right? And wherever you see division, you also see strife.

The Bible says if you get rid of the scorner, strife will cease. But where we praise and lodge strife, which is critical race theory, these things will continually develop more and more strife. So we don’t want to go back to the Jim Crow era, but critical race theory puts us back on that same plane because the focus is on exterior things. Dr. King wanted us to be judged not by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character.

(26:24):
Critical race theory labels whites as inherently racist. So that’s putting the focus on the color of the skin rather than the heart. And so within that, some people came along and they started this new term called colorblindness. Now I’ll be honest with you, I’m not a fan of the colorblind notion or doctrine because at the end of the day, I believe it’s only two or 3% of the overall population that is colorblind anyway, right? And I should be able to look at someone and see their color, but not become prejudiced or biased because of their skin tone. So being colorblind falls short and dealing with these issues instead of being colorblind. What about affirming?

(27:22):
I affirm color. I’m not going to say that I’m blind to it and I can’t see your color. I don’t see skin tone. I don’t see black. That doesn’t sit well with me. You see color, but you should be able to see color, but treat people right at the same time. Listen, when I come in contact with you, Dr. Jeff or any other white male, I don’t immediately become angry and view you as an evil person or racist because of the color of your skin. I don’t do that. That’s not fair. And critical race theory seeks to do that, which takes us back, but it doesn’t move us forward.

Dr. Jeff Myers (28:04):
When we began the show you were mentioning having been at an abortion clinic standing against abortion, and a black man came up to you and said, why are you fighting a white man’s issue? And you have brought not only critical race theory into this work that you’re focused on, but also abortion. And you make the statement that abortion is based in racism, which people who’ve looked at the life of Margaret Sanger and others can see that. But this is not very often talked about. Correct. And I’d love for you to be the one to kind of bring this back into the discussion and say, don’t forget where this ideology came from.

John Amanchukwu (28:49):
Yes. You’re so right, Dr. Jeff. In my new book, Eraced: Uncovering the Lies of Critical Race Theory and Abortion. I want to read something to you from page 61.

It reads, “Sanger believed society could be made better if those deemed undesirable were walled off or eliminated entirely. She also viewed children as a drain on their parents and by extension on their communities. In time, she found a way to fuse these twin diabolical beliefs. She believed abortion was necessary to be placed in the black community across America.”

“In a letter to Dr. CJ Gamble dated December 10th, 1939 about the negro project she wrote, ‘It seems to me from my experience where I have been in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas, that while the colored negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay down their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions, and doubts. They do not do this with the white people. And if we can train the negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and with knowledge, which I believe will have far reaching results among the colored people. His work, in my opinion, should be entirely with the negro profession and the nurses, hospitals, social workers, as well as the county’s white doctors. His success will depend upon his personality and his training by us.’”

These are the words of the founder of Planned Parenthood. Now, keep in mind that Planned Parenthood received nearly $600 million last year from the federal government, and then another $250 million from the former wife of Jeff Bezos, Mackenzie Scott. I tell Christians this all the time. We will never out fund Planned Parenthood, but we’ll always out God Planned Parenthood. That’s our only hope. God is our only hope. Margaret Sanger wanted to eliminate the black population, and she wanted to do this by using black doctors who were charismatic and enthusiastic, but also she sought to use the black preacher.

(31:50):
There was a time where Reverend Jesse Jackson called Abortion Black Genocide. I believe he even coined that term. But when it came time for him to run for president, he did an about face. He switched his message and he would no longer touch abortion with a 10 foot pole. He began to view it as reproductive healthcare and reproductive justice. But there is no reproduction in abortion. My mentor, Bishop Patrick Lanewood and senior says that all the time, there’s no reproduction in abortion.

And so by using the charismatic preacher, your Jesse Jacksons and your Al Sharptons and your lawyers like Ben Crump, and we have this new gentleman who’s running for the US Senate who came out, I believe his name is Gary Chambers, something to that effect. He released a video a couple days ago talking about abortion and the damaging impacts that it’s going to have on black women because they won’t be able to receive an abortion.

(33:02):
So there’s so many lives that are being thrown out there as a result of Roe v. Wade being overturned. But abortion is an epidemic. It’s a pandemic in the black community. The leading cause of death in our country is not tragic accidents. It’s not heart disease. It’s not the coronavirus, the first, second, or third variant. But the leading cause of death in our country is abortion.

And we need to talk about this issue more and point out the racist foundation of the abortion industry. 78% of your abortuaries are found in black communities. Since the inception of Roe v. Wade, 20 million black babies have been aborted. So let’s bring into play the BLM movement. When you go to their website, you see nothing about the black genocide that’s taken place at our abortion clinics. And so if black lives matter, why aren’t we talking about the leading cause of death in the country, which is abortion?

(34:25):
The most dangerous place for a black baby is in the womb of our mother, but it’s only when a white cop kills a black man that black people by and large stand up and march and speak out against someone being killed. But when it’s the white doctor who puts on the white coat, when we give them our 300 to $500 to abort our baby, we have nothing to say about that.

And these mortuaries are in our communities. It wasn’t until the summer of 2020 that the prestigious abortion clinic in New York, the palace for Margaret Sanger, the Margaret Sanger Abortion Clinic there in New York, there are more black babies aborted than are given birth to. Okay? It wasn’t until 2020 that her name was removed from that clinic.

But here’s the thing, you can take her name off of the clinic, but her mission still exists. I tell people this all the time, some like it, some don’t. And I’ve never been known to be PC or politically correct. I’m more like Elijah and John the Baptist. The voice of one crying out in the wilderness makes straight the way of the Lord. But I tell people this all the time, that if you are pro-abortion, whether you know it or not or whether you like it or not, you are also pro racism because the history of the abortion movement was steeped in killing the black community.

Dr. Jeff Myers (36:18):
Wow. You said that this book comes in October. We’re recording this in July of 2022. This is so, so important. I am, I’m still trying to wrap my mind around, 20 million black babies have been aborted since Roe v. Wade, 20 million. You think about, I mean, what is the US population right now? 350 million. So you’re looking at, that would be what, 6% of the population, or 7% of the population. It’s unbelievable.

John Amanchukwu (36:58):
You’re so right. Blacks make up 13 to about 14% of the overall population in this country. Today, black women represent 8%. Black men only represent 5%. So if you’re a black male and you support abortion, I mean, do you not care about your numbers? Do you not want to grow as a people group in this nation?

(37:24):
There was a time where Blacks were the largest minority group, but we’ve now been surpassed by Hispanics who by and large are of the Catholic faith, and they are dogged when it comes towards the sanctity of marriage and fighting against abortion and growing their families. And so we’ve seen this trend cause blacks to move from being the largest minority to being now the second largest minority. And according to a pastor by the name of Lennar Childress, he said that if the current abortion rate continues, then by 2038, we might turn around and see that blacks are extinct.

So black women represent 8% of the overall population. Black men represent 5%, but of the black women who are ovulating, which are about three to 4%, they account for nearly 36 to 40% of the overall abortions in our country. Let that sink in. And to be in an abortion clinic and to have a black father tell me that I’m fighting a white man’s issue, Dr. Jeff.

(38:38):
When I go to the local abortion clinic, I’m not out there to save just one people group. I’m not out there just to save the white baby or the Asian baby or the Hispanic baby or the other baby. I’m down there to save them babies in general. But listen, babies, of course, I celebrate when a black baby is saved. Of course I do. I want to see as many black babies saved as possible because there is a genocide that has taken place on our community.

And it’s sad to see people on the left, men like Barack Obama and women like Kamala Harris and many of your politicians today, even Raphael Warnock who ran and said that he was a pro-choice pastor. That’s an oxymoron. There’s no such thing as a pro-choice pastor or a pro-choice Christian. And I believe that according to the scripture, the Bible says that God, that we will give an account to what we have done in our body, whether it was good or evil. I believe that God is even going to judge us based upon how we voted.

(39:56):
I believe that if every deed is going to be brought into account, I believe that when we go into that ballot box, God is going to judge us based upon how we cast our vote. Now, there is no perfect political party. Let me be honest. There isn’t. But by and large, there’s one party in this country who has a full support towards the lgbtq plus community and abortion. And when you go to Proverbs chapter 6, verses 16 through 19, the Bible says these six things that the Lord hate, ye, seven are an abomination unto him. Number one, a proud look, a lying tongue. And number three, hands that shed innocent blood.

(40:49):
God hates when innocent babies, innocent people are killed. He has a perfect hatred towards that. God is infuriated. He becomes wrath when that takes place. And so as the church, we need to not only fight critical race theory, but we have to fight the abortion industry. And there is a great divide that has taken place. Go figure Dr. Jeff. On the same week that we celebrated Juneteenth and what took place in Galveston, Texas, when blacks found out they were finally free on that same week that we celebrated Juneteenth, we also saw the overturning of Roe v Wade.

Now, there were countless people who celebrated Juneteenth, but the same crowd by and large who celebrated Juneteenth. They frowned when Roe v Wade was overturned. And so what about the fetal emancipation proclamation, which is what I, I’ll be able to say this and you can say the same thing that we were able to see Roe v Wade topple and overthrow pride month in the month of June. Listen, man. Thank you, Jesus. Yes.

Dr. Jeff Myers (42:22):
Yeah, well, this is so good. This is so good. And when this book comes out, it’s going to be a lightning rod. I’m really grateful for your taking on the topic. You’ve shared a lot of shocking information, and I think anybody who’s watching or listening to this show, this is one, two forward and you say, but it’s going to make a lot of people mad. Well, it probably will. But if what we’re talking about is true, then there is a genocide going on. It is a racial genocide. It is targeted and it is specific.

Now, we don’t advocate candidates or even political parties at Summit Ministries, but we absolutely believe that we have a responsibility as citizens to be involved. And you’ve shared information that it’s like those things where you see it, you can’t unsee it. Don’t try to unsee this. Don’t try to unsee it. We need to be able to speak the truth. John, thanks so much for being on.

John Amanchukwu (43:21):
Thank you so much, Dr. Jeff. The gospel is an offense before the gospel consoles you, it cuts you, and when you are offended, you become convicted. But it’s only at that point where truth can seep in and you can be redeemed and born again. God bless you, Dr. Jeff.

Dr. Jeff Myers (43:38):
Thank you to my guest, John Amanchukwu, for being on the show today. His book Eraced is one that you’re going to want to pick up and it’s spelled differently than you might expect. It’s E-R-A-C-E-D, Eraced, and you can visit his website. So I’ve got to spell this out for you because Amanchukwu is not an easy name to remember. So John, J-O-H-N, A-M-A-N-C-H-U-K-W-U, John Amanchukwu. That’s where you can get the new book Eraced. That’s where you can find out about his particular ministry, and that’s where you can learn about how to face down some of the evils of our day.

The prophet Isaiah warned, woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness. It is our responsibility as Christians to see the ideologies of our time at face value so that we can advocate for the truth and for a good society and oppose the things that don’t get us there. So thanks for joining the show this week. I’ll look forward to hearing from you, and we’ll see you next week.

Ryan Dobson (44:47):
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