The Dr. Jeff Show Ep. 51 – Joshua Broome

Episode 51: Summary & Transcript

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Episode Summary

This episode features Dr. Jeff speaking with Joshua Broome, a student and alumnus of the Summit Ministries program. Joshua recounts his transformative two-week experience at Summit, detailing how he first heard about the program and his initial impressions of the campus and staff. He highlights specific lectures he enjoyed, the importance of the welcoming community, and the role of small groups in fostering open discussion.

Joshua explains how the program helped him, as an introvert, to build confidence and make friends, and how it prepared him for his transition to college at Liberty University. He also discusses his decision to study constitutional law, arguing for the importance of Christians engaging in fields like law and politics to be a positive influence.

Episode Transcript

Dr. Jeff Myers (00:02):
Hey everyone. Welcome to the Dr. Jeff Show. We’re here again this week. You can get this show on Apple, on Google, Spotify, Edifi, Liftable, wherever you get your podcast. Please review the show and tell your friends. This is the show where I interview major thought leaders from many fields of influence to show how our worldview changes everything.

Today, I’m interviewing a future thought leader who has come through the Summit Ministries program and is now studying constitutional law. It is so much fun to be able to have Joshua Broome on the show with us today. Joshua Broome, welcome to the Dr. Jeff Show.

Joshua Broome (00:41):
Thank you so much. I’m so happy to be here.

Dr. Jeff Myers (00:45):
I’m really looking forward to our conversation. We met at the Summit at Covenant College last summer in Georgia.

Joshua Broome (00:52):
Yes, sir.

Dr. Jeff Myers (00:53):
Yeah. And today we’re going to talk about this summer program because it’s so life changing for so many people. And I’d love for lots and lots of families to hear about your experience and just to hear how Summit changes lives. So I’m looking forward to our conversation.

Joshua Broome (01:13):
Yeah, absolutely. I’m as well. Truly love Summit. It truly did change my life in a lot of ways. So I’m looking forward to talking about it.

Dr. Jeff Myers (01:20):
Now tell us a little bit about how you got to Summit in the first place. How did you hear about it? What were you thinking that it was?

Joshua Broome (01:29):
Yeah, absolutely. So a lot of God’s providence was in that because, it was a lot of reasons that led to it that were, it almost didn’t happen. So the way I found out about it is my mom heard from a grandmother who had a student who went there and had an awesome, awesome experience. And so she was talking about this to my mother at a debate tournament that I almost didn’t go to because I wasn’t feeling very well and decided to go.

And so my mom thought it was a great idea and she sent me. And I have a younger and older sister, and we all went to Summit together. And I always loved apologetics and things like that, but I didn’t know exactly what Summit was going to look like. I didn’t know if it was going to be just an apologetics camp or, I really wasn’t sure. So I didn’t have many concrete expectations coming in, I would say, but it definitely exceeded all of them. So yeah, I truly, truly loved it.

Dr. Jeff Myers (02:24):
Joshua, what was it like when you pulled onto the campus there up on top of that mountain, lookout mountain, Georgia? What was in your mind that you were wondering might be happening?

Joshua Broome (02:36):
Oh yeah. So first of all, it was beautiful up there. Lookout mountain is a beautiful mountain. Covenant College is a beautiful campus. And when you pull up the way that we were pulling up, you have all these beautiful buildings. You have the trees and the beautiful view in the distance. And the first thing that happened when we pulled up is all of these summit staffers came and started unloading our cars and we started talking to them.

And my first thought was like, you know, these people are pretty cool already getting to have those conversations. And so my expectation just going in was, it was a long drive from where I came from, so just starting to get settled, trying to find people to talk to. And so just those first initial conversations were very warming and made me feel very welcome right at the beginning.

Dr. Jeff Myers (03:23):
Yeah. Now when you came to the Summit there, they start right off with, you get everybody together in one big classroom and start talking about what the two weeks are going to be like. What were some of your hopes?

Joshua Broome (03:36):
Some of my hopes were that during the sessions that I would learn about new things and that I would have new ways to look at things because as I said, I had an interest in apologetics for a long time, basically from middle school. And so I was interested in actually being able to hear some of the speakers that I had heard about before.

For example, Sean McDowell was a speaker that came to Summit Georgia last year that I had already loved his thing. So being able to actually talk to them, being able to ask questions and interact with the speakers was something I was looking forward to.

And also, I was very much looking forward to being able to have conversations with the staffers at Meanwhile, have conversations with the other students there because it’s great to be able to know these things. And I did know some of those things, but being able to learn more and really be able to interact and engage was something I was very much looking forward to.

Dr. Jeff Myers (04:27):
Yeah. So all the people who have all this information are right there in front of you.

Joshua Broome (04:31):
Yes.

Dr. Jeff Myers (04:31):
You can have lunch with them, you can have dinner with them, you can ask questions of them.

Joshua Broome (04:36):
Yes.

Dr. Jeff Myers (04:37):
Yeah. What were some of the topics that you enjoyed the most at Summit?

Joshua Broome (04:41):
Some of the topics I enjoyed the most at Summit were, one of my favorite lectures was one that Sean McDowell gave in a very interesting manner. He pretended to be an atheist and we asked him questions and it was just so enlightening to hear his answers to the questions, to really hear what an atheist might actually say.

And you could tell that it was something very well thought out. It was something that he had done before. And also getting to hear the kind of questions that the other Summit students asked, what questions should we ask in those situations? What questions shouldn’t we ask? What questions should we ask before? And so that was very interesting.

Another one that was very interesting was Christopher Yuan’s perspective on homosexuality, because that was one of the deficiencies in my knowledge of apologetics and something I wanted to learn more about and just how incredible his story was and how God has used that and worked in his life and being able to really hear his perspective and thoughts on that.

(05:34):
Being able to very much speak the truth in love from a biblical perspective, not compromising on truth, but really understanding where other people are coming from. That was an amazing lecture. And then also Kathy Cook’s lecture about how different people are smart in different ways. Everybody loved that session. That was awesome.

And so I think it really showed how God has given you certain ways to be smart and certain strengths that he’s given you for a certain reason. And really being able to understand that and apply that is one of the great ways you can glorify him. So those are three sessions that stood out to me as I really loved them, but I loved almost all of the sessions.

Dr. Jeff Myers (06:16):
Yeah. Yeah. There are 56 hours, I think Trip told me, of instruction that happened during that two weeks. So it’s a lot of class time. And I think I wonder sometimes parents say, “I’m not sure my son or daughter would like being in class that much,” but you have a different perspective on that.

Joshua Broome (06:38):
Yeah, absolutely. So there is, like you said, there’s a lot of class time, but there’s two parts to that. And the first part is that when you have great engaging speakers such as Summit has, that class time is actually spent learning and they engage with you and you learn a lot.

And when you’re actively learning in that kind of situation, it doesn’t feel nearly as long as it might feel if you’re sitting in a high school and a lecture about something that you don’t care about because they are important topics that you really do learn a lot about and then you care about them. And a lot of the lectures, sometimes it may not be something you come in caring about, but they showed you why you should be caring about this and why you need to learn more about it. And so that’s very cool.

(07:18):
And then the second thing about that is when you’re in the classroom, you are together with people, you’re together with your friends. Some of the friends that I’ve made, just sitting next to people in class and the breaks between class and we’re sitting next to each other. And so it’s not like this time where for 56 hours straight, just a solid block of a few days, we’re just in classes together. Then you get breaks, you can get to involve and you get to look over around at your classmates and see their reactions and get to chat with them between lectures. So it’s just a super fun time. It’s not a dry time at all and you do learn a lot.

Dr. Jeff Myers (07:54):
And I know you were particularly looking forward to getting out of the house after COVID and all of that, just being together. What was that like just to finally be together with people?

Joshua Broome (08:04):
Oh, it was so awesome. It was an awesome thing because last year I had so many different things canceled. Youth group went online, debate club went online, tournaments went online, and just being able to get back together and actually interact with people. And it was kind of a complete 180 because not only are you getting to interact with people, you’re getting to interact with people from all different kinds of states, all different kinds of experiences.

And then you’re there together and you’re having this experience together and you have people to talk with in the cafeteria, you have people to talk with around classes. And we go out on the lawn and play spike ball and learn new things. So it was truly awesome after COVID to be able to have those experiences and just to be able to interact with people in a different way. So that was very cool.

Dr. Jeff Myers (08:55):
Cool.That’s fun. I know a lot of people come and they feel a little nervous when they’re pulling on campus. I’m by myself, will I make any friends while I’m there? Yeah.

Joshua Broome (09:06):
So that was a very big concern for me personally, because it’s kind of funny because I have always been a debater person and I can get up and speak in person, I can speak in front of crowds, but I’ve always been an introverted person. I’ve never been one that’s good at reaching out to people and things like that. And that was one of the big things that I learned about at Summit is people truly do, like they love you and they care about you.

And that was exemplified by the way that what happened when you pull up is that they come to you and they start a conversation and they pick up their bags. And being in Georgia, kind of that reflection of the Southern hospitality and got there with my roommates and we immediately started chatting and going into small groups and just remembering those conversations that we had in small groups right off the bat.

(09:58):
And so the thing about it is being a very introverted person, there are people who will love you and will reach out to you. And so my encouragement to someone who’s looking for friends and looking for people to hang out with is just be open and receptive to the people that come to you. And that’s my encouragement.

And to people also, another encouragement kind of from that introverted mindset is, do expand yourself and reach out to people, because those conversations that you’re able to have and the people that you’re able to get in contact with, you don’t know, especially at something at Summit, people are looking for friends, people are looking to have those conversations and they love to have those with you. It’s as simple as going outside and just asking someone like, “What did you think about the lecture?” Seeing someone sitting at a table and saying, “Can I sit with you?”

(10:43):
And having those conversations, those conversations come so naturally. So as someone who is not one to have, I’m not a big gregarious person, finding friends and having those conversations and stuff like that was one of my very favorite parts of Summit and one of the things I was most blessed by. Yeah.

Dr. Jeff Myers (11:04):
Now you mentioned small groups, maybe people who haven’t been involved in Summit aren’t really familiar with that. Tell us about what the small groups are about and what happens during that time.

Joshua Broome (11:14):
Yeah, absolutely. So small groups, during the week at least, we had them every day. And even on the weekends, we still had them every day at night. So it was a great time to, after all the lectures, after all the activities, we would just talk about the day. And one thing that my scrum group leader, Eli did is that he would first take the time to get to know how we were doing, what our experiences were, and truly get to connect on that level. And we would just have a great time talking about the day.

And then we would just kind of debrief on everything that went on. What were your thoughts on this speaker? What were your thoughts on this speaker or this activity or did you go to any of the open forums and ask any questions? What were your reactions to that?

(11:56):
So the small group time is really just a great place to have conversations about whatever you experienced during the day with a small group leader who truly loves you and most importantly loves Christ and to be able to talk with that with groups of your peers and guys that you over that two week period and didn’t take long, especially for my group to guys within just a few days you really love and care about and so some of your great friends. So that is what small group is, is what’s one of my very, very favorite parts of Summit.

Dr. Jeff Myers (12:29):
And it sounds like it helped you just the way you were treated there, people loving you, reaching out to you, helped you feel safe to talk about some of the tough things.

Joshua Broome (12:42):
Oh yeah, absolutely. One of my favorite things that our small group did is my small group leader, Eli, it wasn’t so much that he definitely let out, but it wasn’t just he’s kind of over us and he has like all this knowledge that he was expressing his feelings too, and he was expressing the way he was. He was telling us about his day. And that really set the attitude of vulnerability and really being able to express that and having avenues to trust that.

And just the other guys in the group, when someone expressed something, it didn’t devolve into an argument. We didn’t agree about everything, obviously. We had some agreements, some theological debates, some debates about, how should this argument go about? Is this a valid argument to use in apologetics? How should we apply it?

We had discussions about all of those things, but it was always out of the attitude of, we truly care and love each other and we aren’t so much trying to get over each other, but we’re trying to work towards actually finding the truth. And so that was something that I loved in small groups and that was something that was very much the turn throughout all of Summit as well.

Dr. Jeff Myers (13:56):
Yeah. That wasn’t all class time when you were there. You did some fun things too, learned some new skills. Tell us about that.

Joshua Broome (14:03):
Oh yeah. So there were so many different things to do. And so there was a great mix of being able to do things that you want to do, being able to have new activities. So I love basketball and so we had a lot of guys who also loved basketball. Being able to play that with the guys was so very fun. We had open gym time.

And then there were also other things that I was able to learn and do and experience. I had never played spike ball really before and every break between classes, we had a long enough break. There would be a bunch of spite ball nets out in the green area and would learn to play that. And there would be different games that we would play during activities time.

And the activities team at Summit Georgia was great. I remember this game, I don’t even know how they came up with this, where we made jousting towers of people and tried to joust with each other and rip headbands off each other’s heads and different games like that.

(15:00):
And even activities off of campus, we went down to an aquarium in Chattanooga with some friends and that was awesome. And then when we went whitewater rafting, and I had never gone white water rafting before, but that was truly one of the best experiences in my life. That was so very fun. And just even the bus ride and the conversations that we had on there were awesome.

So Summit is also a wonderful time to learn new things, do new things, get on a bus ride, go somewhere. You’re not stuck in the same place the entire time. So it’s also incredibly fun and you do it with people that you grow to love very quickly.

Dr. Jeff Myers (15:39):
Yeah. And if I’ve got the story right here, you learned to swing dance while you were there too.

Joshua Broome (15:44):
I did learn to swing dance. I did learn to swing dance. Yeah, that was a blast. So yeah, that was so fun because I am not a dancer. Both of my sisters did dance for a long time and I am not very adept with that general kind of thing, but yeah, I was talking with a friend and knew how to swing dance. I was like, “Can you show me?” And yeah.

Dr. Jeff Myers (16:18):
Yeah, that’s really fun.

Joshua Broome (16:19):
It was a lot of fun.

Dr. Jeff Myers (16:20):
Yeah, it’s fun. You feel like what you’re describing is an environment where you feel safe, you’re friends, you know you’re loved, you can try new things, you can ask big questions and all of that. And you’re completely free to do all of that. That’s really cool.

Joshua Broome (16:38):
Yeah, it definitely is. And I think that’s one of the biggest things about Summit, is just what you said, the freedom to ask questions. And that is one of the most important things about Summit, because there’s no question that you feel bad or ashamed for asking because everyone has questions. And I think one of the problems that sometimes a lot of people have, at least I know I have, is that you feel like you’re alone in having that question or having that thought.

And so sometimes you have that question and it’s like, yes, there is an answer for that and you’re not alone in asking that question. And so it just gives you the opportunity to truly ask the questions that either you had, it gives you a chance to express those doubts. And once again, speaking the truth and love is something that is so foundational to Summit.

(17:25):
And that’s one of the things that is beautiful about Summit is the opportunity and the freedom and the safety to ask those questions and know that you’re going to be able to, not necessarily to get a perfect answer to the question, because sometimes there are questions that nobody has the perfect answer to, but knowing that you’re going to be able to ask those questions without fear of being judged for not knowing everything. And that’s a beautiful thing.

Dr. Jeff Myers (17:52):
Joshua, you went from Summit to college.

Joshua Broome (17:56):
Yes, I did.

Dr. Jeff Myers (17:57):
How did being at Summit for two weeks affect you when you were on your way to a totally new place and a completely new experience?

Joshua Broome (18:07):
Yes, in a lot of ways. I think one of the biggest ways, and one way that I expressed to some of my friends at Summit and some of my friends at college is specifically going to Summit, coming from a homeschool background, like just even going and having to spend two weeks in a dorm and being able to interact with people all the time.

And as you said, more of an introverted person, it gave me confidence first off to really be able to work with my social skillset saying college is not a completely new environment. I think it was a great way to ease me into that, but also just knowing there are a lot of people at college and it’s a similar environment those first two weeks of college that it is because you have a lot of people that are coming together from a lot of different places and they don’t really know any better either.

(18:50):
And they’re also looking for those interactions. And so that was something that I’ve definitely learned at Summit. And another way that I learned a lot about Summit is having those conversations, those deep theological conversations, those conversations, willing to know people and really getting to care about people. And those also have been conversations I’ve been so thankful to be able to have at college.

I go to Liberty University and we have an awesome program where there’s a structure where we have community group leaders on every hall. And I’m thankful and blessed to have become a community group leader and being able to lead out in those conversations with a lot of the principles that I’ve learned at Summit and being able to lead my discussions in a way where people feel free to ask those hard questions. And so that’s something that has been, I’ve definitely taken into college from Summit.

Dr. Jeff Myers (19:45):
So Summit helped you then really prepare to get involved in leadership when you went to university.

Joshua Broome (19:53):
Yeah, absolutely. So it was kind of a funny story as how I ended up getting involved with leadership at Liberty because it was directly related to Summit. My small group leader, Eli, we had one-on-one meals and he got one-on-one meals with all of the guys in the group.

But we were talking and he asked me, “Josh, where are you going to college next year? What are you doing?” And I said, “Liberty University.” And he said, “Oh, cool. I went to Liberty University last year.” And he said, “Where do you stay on campus?” So I said, “Commons two.” And he was like, “Oh, cool. You know what floor you’re staying on?” I was like, “Floor two.” He was like, that’s where he stayed last year. And so Eli was actually a community group leader on the very same hall that I am right now.

(20:34):
And so he was the one who encouraged me like, “Josh, you’re good at leading out in these conversations. I really appreciate it, hearing your thoughts. And I can tell that you love Christ and I would really encourage you to be a community group leader on the hall.” And so that was something that I personally would’ve never thought of before because as a more introverted person, I was very unsure of like, should I lead a group? Is that something I could do?

And a lot of these students are much older than me and I’ll be the youngest when they’re coming in as a freshman, but Eli’s encouragement in that was one of the main reasons why I felt that God was leading me to apply for community group leader. And so just having those conversations and being really confident in what I was able to know and being confident in who I was in Christ, something that I learned so much about at Summit was one of the main reasons why I felt that God was leading me on leadership at Liberty University.

(21:32):
And I’ve been so incredibly blessed and so incredibly thankful for that opportunity. I love the guys in the group. I truly do. The opportunity to lead discussions and the discussions we’ve been able to have been so amazing. And being in leadership, as I’m sure that you’re aware, is a way that God really works in your heart and shows himself strong and humbles you and makes you more in his image. So that’s been a beautiful, awesome thing.

Dr. Jeff Myers (21:58):
Yeah. Yeah. I think there are a lot of, this wasn’t your situation coming into Summit, but I think there are a lot of students who come and they think, “I’m not sure what I believe or if I believe.” And I don’t know if I want to be around all of these people. I’d love for you to just talk about that a little bit. What would it be like for a student in that situation coming to Summit?

Joshua Broome (22:25):
Yeah, absolutely. I think the first thing once again is no matter what you believe and no matter how sure you are of what you believe, that won’t change how people love you. That won’t change how people care about you. And one of the most encouraging things that I’ve heard from Summit is hearing these stories of people who came in saying, “I wasn’t sure what I believed and I wasn’t sure if I believed at all.” And some people saying, “I’m an atheist. I didn’t really believe in that stuff.”

And it wasn’t necessarily all the time the lecturers changed their mind. It was their conversations with their roommates and the way those people loved them and cared about them. And so I would say if you’re fearful about coming into an environment where people may disagree with you or people may have come in with a different opinion than you, do not fear that you’ll be ostracized or that you won’t be welcome.

(23:16):
That is absolutely not true. And I think another part of that is in anything, if you’re not sure what you believe, specifically if you’re coming in saying, “I don’t know, and I feel like I have so many questions and I’m not sure what the answers to those questions are.” There are answers to those questions.

So many of the questions that I have asked growing up, and I’m thankful that God has worked in my life and in my heart and through the study of apologetics, I’ve gotten the answer to a lot of the questions I have, but throughout my life, I’ve had a lot of questions and I’ve had some serious doubts and people who have come alongside me and those really make the difference. And so if you are in a place of having doubt and stuff like that, know that there are answers and that you will be welcomed.

(24:04):
And so that is not something that I’ll have to fear. And just being able to grow and know more and even if you choose to not believe in, maybe some it doesn’t change your mind, it’s not guaranteed that that will happen. Maybe it doesn’t. But even just knowing all the arguments, knowing this information and knowing why you believe what you believe and being able to defend that, no matter what it is, is such a very important thing. And that is something that you will get at Summit as well.

Dr. Jeff Myers (24:31):
Yeah. Cool. I’d love to hear about your college major a little bit. You’re in pre-law.

Joshua Broome (24:39):
Yes, sir.

Dr. Jeff Myers (24:39):
And you’re studying constitutional law.

Joshua Broome (24:41):
Yes, sir.

Dr. Jeff Myers (24:41):
You mentioned just before the show started that you just finished a test in torts, which means that you’re actually, that’s something people don’t even usually get till they get to law school, so you’re advancing in that. Why is it so important for Christians to be thinking about going into fields like law?

Joshua Broome (25:01):
Yes, absolutely. So one of the things that somewhat frustrates me with fields such as law and politics, and I’ve heard this frustration, even some people who were speaking at Summit, is that people kind of say, well, this is something that there’s not a lot of light in, and that politics and lawyers, we make jokes about it. The classic joke is, “What do you call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?” And the answer is, “A good start.” Good start. So stuff like that.

It’s somewhat true because of this situation in our justice system and our political system, but how is it going to change if you don’t have Christians who are willing to step into that? That is one of the reasons why it’s so important to have a biblical worldview in those areas because that’s where a light isn’t being shined.

(25:45):
And those are areas where it is hard not to compromise. And so having people who have backgrounds in apologetics and know why they believe what they believe and being able to defend that is so important in those areas. And those areas really do have a large impact.

And just even people who are trying to stand up for what they believe, people who are in constitutional cases where it’s like, are you able to say that? Are you able to stand on what the Bible says and not feel like you have to support something that goes against what you believe the Bible says and your religion and stuff like that? Who defends those people? Who works for those people? It’s the lawyers who have a biblical perspective. It’s the politicians who have a biblical perspective and just even other things that lawyers are able to do in those contexts and why Christians who care about it.

(26:35):
One of the most encouraging things I heard at Summit is the National Center for Sexual Exploitation, one of the speakers came kind of representing them and talking about them. And they have a team of lawyers that they do things such as working to make sure that people that promote pornography and stuff like this and that really encourage sexual exploitation, sexual trafficking, things like that, they aren’t being supported and that we have laws in place like this and putting political pressure on these places not to support these things.

And what we see is that this is working and it’s making a difference and people are, it’s really making a difference in people’s lives. And so those are absolutely things that Christians should care about. And those are absolutely things that if you believe that what God is leading you in, that’s what you believe that God is leading you towards, I think that is something that’s beautiful for a Christian to do.

(27:28):
And that is something that I’ve had a lot of clones myself. I’m putting myself in an area where it’s politics and it’s legal. And one of the reasons why those people get such a bad rap is because it is hard not to compromise in those areas.

And that is something that I’m praying that obviously the Lord will keep me in, but you can’t completely avoid those areas everywhere that you go, every area of life, politicians and lawyers and having a governmental system and having a just governmental system is something that’s very biblical, it’s something that’s very important and we need biblical Christians in every area of life. And so that is why I think it’s so important for me and I believe for people who value freedom to get involved in those areas.

Dr. Jeff Myers (28:15):
Yeah. So well said. What vision do you have? What would you like to be able to do to make a difference?

Joshua Broome (28:21):
Yeah. So that’s one of the things that I’ve been praying about because I’m not completely sure. I am still a freshman in college, so I’m trying to figure some more of those things out. But my dream for a long, long time has always been to be able to work in those areas, to be able to work in those constitutional cases with an organization such as the National Center for Sexual Exploitation, for an organization such as Alliance Defending Freedom, kind of defending the freedoms that we have, or organizations such as HSLDA, defending a parent’s right to educate their children, especially after being homeschooled my entire life.

Working in something like that, working in an area like that has always been my dream. And so that’s something that I would love to do. And even just one thing that I believe that I’ve been realizing more and more is just standing for justice is an awesome thing and being able to litigate trials and punish the guilty and defend the innocent.

(29:23):
And that is something that is so beautiful and it’s so biblical. And even in that, having Christians who are able to defend people hearing stories about people who were condemned unjustly or people who were not able to defend themselves and having a situation like that where I could truly show the love of Christ and stand to biblical principles like that is something that I would love to do as well. So I’m not completely sure where God has me to go, where God will lead me, but I have complete confidence that he will do that. And so that is something I’m so very much looking forward to. And I’m excited.

Dr. Jeff Myers (30:00):
Yeah. Well, I’m confident in that as well. I think God’s going to use you in some really cool ways and I’m excited. So talk to a student for a minute who’s trying to decide, is this worth the time and the money for me to take two weeks out of my schedule to come to Georgia or to Colorado this coming summer?

Joshua Broome (30:19):
Yeah, absolutely. So I would say yes, yes, yes, because your life will be changed. And the things that you learn at some of the things that you are shown at Summit, it’s a way that God can truly use to change your life. And so if you are in a place where no matter where you are, if you are someone who’s coming in like me, you feel like you may know a lot about apologetics.

If you’re someone who maybe you have a lot of friends and you feel like maybe I don’t need some place to come for more social interaction. If you’re somewhere, as we were talking about before, I have a lot of doubts. I’m not sure what to do with that. All of those experiences and backgrounds, no matter what your experience and background are, there’s so many different things that you can learn.

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There’s so much information. That’s one of the things worth like the 56 hours of class time, you are getting bang for your buck. You are getting a lot of information. That is definitely, definitely worth it in terms of all the wealth of knowledge that you have. Just as you were saying, once again, the opportunity to interact with these people.

If you read books and you have questions or you have no idea what apologetics even are, if you have never heard of the cosmological argument, I have no idea what that is. No matter where you are, you have an opportunity to, the speaker is there. You can go with them after their presentation. You can go up to them during the open forum. That is something that is priceless and just being the interactions that you have are priceless. The memories that you make are priceless.

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The people that you get to interact with are truly priceless. And so my advice is it is two weeks out of the summer, but it is an awesome, awesome two weeks. And it does have a price tag, but is more than more than worth it. And so that is my encouragement is that no matter where you’re coming from, no matter what your experience is, no matter what you’re looking for in Summit, it is an awesome, awesome experience and you will not regret it. Wow.

Dr. Jeff Myers (32:31):
Well, I’m sold. I’m coming to Summit. I think I’m going to come eight times this summer. Oh man. Well, this has been such a fun conversation. I’m really encouraged to speak with you. And I am cheering for you and praying God’s blessings on you as you go through your studies and prepare to become the kind of leader who really makes a difference. The times demand it and you’re stepping forward and I’m proud of you.

Joshua Broome (33:02):
Thank you so much. It truly means a lot. It’s been such a fun conversation. I have told a lot of people at college about Summit. I think one thing about a lot of Summit graduates is that they are not only better apologists for their Christian faith, but they also become apologists for Summit. So I’m always more than willing to have a conversation about something I love so much. Thank you so much.

Dr. Jeff Myers (33:24):
Well, so glad to have you on the show today.

Joshua Broome (33:27):
Yeah, absolutely.

Dr. Jeff Myers (33:28):
Thank you to my guest today, Josh Broome, for joining the show. I hope that you’re inspired to follow God’s call on your life. And that if you are a young adult, consider attending a Summit Ministries Conference in Colorado, Georgia, or online this summer. Just go to summit.org to learn more. The book of Proverbs says that as iron sharpens iron, so we sharpen each other, we can be effective and wise leaders to build God’s kingdom on earth as it is in heaven, and that’s what it’s all about. We’ll see you next week.

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