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            <title>Thinking Christianly: When Is Our Worldview Truly Biblical?</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Each day this week, I will join Greg Wheatley on Moody Radio's Prime Time America for a 6 minute segment. PTA is Moody's daily afternoon drive time show. My feature will air during the first hour, beginning at 3pm MST (5pm EST). You can listen <a href="http://www.moodyradio.org/primetimeamerica.aspx">here</a>.]]></description>
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            <title>On a Christian Winning American Idol</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>My good friend T.M. Moore posted an interesting comment on the recent American Idol finale. I have quoted the short article, in its entirety, below. You can find it, and more resources from T.M. <a href="http://myparuchia.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=2246:good-news&amp;catid=46:revision&amp;Itemid=100017">here</a>.</p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times; font-size: 16px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">For the sixth time in eight seasons, a professing Christian has been elected the newest "American Idol." I know I should be glad about this. After all, pop culture is a legitimate field of endeavor - within certain limits - and if someone has to be recognized by all the pop afficionados in the land, it may as well be a Christian. I guess. I just wish that something Christian would show up in a more significant area of endeavor. Like some Christian lawyer winning a case before the Supreme Court by citing Biblical precedent and demonstrating the fallacy of progressive law. Or some Christian businessman pioneering an endeavor to create new jobs for the increasing ranks of the jobless. Or some Christian preacher casting off all restraints and emulating his colonial predecessors in the pulpit by holding forth consistently on Biblical issues with respect to politics, morality, culture, and the good society. Or a Christian President, I don't know, acting in some manner consistent with his profession of faith. That would really be good news. Instead, we have another Christian American Idol. Does that language strike anyone besides me as strange? After all, it takes a lot of time and effort, not only to become a pop idol, but to follow "American Idol" through to the final night and elect your fellow believer to the pantheon of pop idols. Surely there are other endeavors as worthy - perhaps more worthy - than this? It's worth a thought anyway.<br /></span></blockquote>]]></description>
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            <title>Summit Ministries and Axis Partner for One Day Family Worldview Conference in Colorado Springs</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>On Tuesday May 12, High Country Home Educators is hosting a one-day Family Worldview Conference in partnership with Summit Ministries and Axis. This conference, which will feature specialized sessions for parents, teenagers, and pre-teens, will help you equip your families to think Biblically in a non-Christian culture.</p>

<p>Only 20% of teens who are highly churched will still be spiritually active by age 29, according to a Barna.org study. Only 9% of Americans have a Biblical Christian worldview, according to another recent Barna.org study. This includes homeschool students. Are you interested in encouraging your homeschool families to prepare their college-bound students for the ideas they will face in college? Do you desire to help your homeschool families teach their children how to be like Paul in the marketplace in Athens, quoting the poets of their society to bring people toward Christ? Maybe we can help</p>

<p>The goals of this one day event include:</p>

<p>1. To demonstrate the reality that ideas have consequences  especially ideas from popular culture.</p>

<p>2. To teach parents and their students about the concept of a worldview and the importance of understanding the worldviews that are present in our culture. </p>

<p>3. To convince parents and their students of the necessity of critical thinking through instruction, interaction and modeling between the AXiS team members and your students.</p>

<p>John Stonestreet, Executive Director of Summit Ministries will conduct sessions for parents. John is a highly sought after speaker at Homeschool Conventions around the country, and his sessions will include (1) "Why Students Walk Away from Their Faith (and what we can do about it);" (2) "Why a Worldview Education is Absolutely Crucial;" and (3) "The World of Worldviews: Making Sense of Your World."</p>

<p>AXiS will be teaching the students. The Axis style of communication implements an energetic team approach.  Each session will be led by one teacher who will be supported by 3-6 team members comprised of alumni from the Focus on the Family Institute and Summit Ministries staff members. The team will perform skits, facilitate small groups, and present current popular culture examples.  This engaging, high-energy presentation will be enjoyable for your students and equip them with information that will impact the rest of their lives.</p>

<p>This event is sponsored by the High Country Home Educators Support Group in Colorado Springs and will be held on Tuesday, May 12th at New Life Church in Colorado Springs. It is open to the public, but you must register <a href="http://hche.org">here</a>. </p>

<p>Please spread the word about this very important event.</p>

<p>To learn more about AXiS, please visit <a href="http://axisworldview.org">the Axis website</a>.</p>

<p>Plato once quoted Socrates as saying that the unexamined life is not worth living. We suggest that the unexamined faith is not worth believing. We would love to help you encourage your families and their students to take their thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ (2 Cor. 10:5) and to live out an examined faith in Jesus Christ.</p>]]></description>
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            <title>On Fundamentalism: Why We Need to Know History</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>One of the defining moments in my personal journey was a class I took in seminary from Dr. John Woodbridge on the history of fundamentalism and evangelicalism in America. As someone frustrated with and running from my own pseudo-fundamentalist heritage, the class helped me place my own limited experiences, as well as pace my grumpiness with it. </p>

<p>The class both clarified my complaints and chastened them, as I realized where I had come from in a larger ecclesiological sense. With a childhood in a church and school which followed the lead of Jerry Falwell (first as an independent fundamental Baptist church then as a more mainstream Baptist church), college years in first a liberal Mennonite college and then at a school named after the greatest enigma in fundamentalism (William Jennings Bryan), seminary at Reformed Theological and eventually Trinity Evangelical, my church makeup was plenty diverse but my understanding of where these various streams of evangelicalism had come from was thoroughly anemic.</p>

<p>I learned from Dr. Woodbridge how many silly assumptions I had because I was operating from my limited experience without any understanding of real history. In my view, this is epidemic in the American evangelical church - we have what my friend Debbie Brezina calls evangelical Alzheimer's. Personally, I went through a Christian school, Christian college, and nearly halfway through seminary without having to learn church history. The little I did get was truncated or strangely juxtaposed together. </p>

<p>I tend to think this overall lack of church history is one reason why what has come to be known as emergent thought is so attractive. In so many ways, it is merely a rehashed liberalism, but so many don't realize it because they have no clue about the modernist/fundamentalist battles of the early 1900's. They literally think that Shane Claiborne, Brian McLaren and Tony Jones are on to something new. Further, it is not uncommon for those in this crowd to toss around the "fundamentalist" label as the emergent equivalent of the scarlet letter while offering really bad definitions of it because, again, they don't know the history of the term. </p>

<p>Without a basic knowledge of recent church history, emergents seem "cutting edge." When understood within this history, they seem presumptuous, naive and arrogant.  (I recently saw a "conversation" between one of these emergent leaders and a well-known evangelical leader. The emergent leader was waxing eloquent about the lack of compassion in evangelicalism, forgetting that his older counterpart had spent the last 50 years taking care of prisoners and their families. For what it's worth, I also think that the reactionary response of too many conservatives resembles the mistakes the second wave of fundamentalism made in the mid 20th century, but that's another blog topic.)</p>

<p>I bring up all of this because a friend and former professor from Bryan College has written a nice little history of fundamentalism in America while also dealing with some of the bad definitions of fundamentalism that are thrown around. Dennis Ingolfsland is a terrific scholar, especially in Jesus studies, whose <a href="http://dennis-ingolfsland.blogspot.com/">blog</a> is worth following. And, <a href="http://dennis-ingolfsland.blogspot.com/2009/04/fundamentalism-greatest-evil.html">his entry from a few days ago on fundamentalism</a> is especially terrific.</p>

<p>For more on the history of evangelicalism and fundamentalism, see George Marsden's <em>Fundamentalism and American Culture</em>, or see the summary chapter in James Davidson Hunter's <em>Culture Wars</em>.</p>]]></description>
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            <title>Summit Ministries Featured on Breakpoint&apos;s Podcast &quot;Discourse&quot;</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Summit Ministries is the feature of the latest "Discourse" podcast on Breakpoint. Breakpoint, founded by Chuck Colson, has recently spearheaded an initiative to link like-minded worldview ministries, and Summit Ministries has been a key part of this new network.

The "Discourse" podcast is hosted by Stephen Reed. You can find the podcast <a href="http://www.breakpoint.org/media.asp?ID=11501">here</a>. 
<div><br /></div><div>Summit was also the featured ministry in Breakpoint's "Worldview Church" e-publication. You can find that article <a href="http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=11586">here</a>.</div>]]></description>
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            <title>How About this for a Mission Trip? University of Cal-Berkeley</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>My new friend Sean McDowell (yes, Josh is his dad) recently took a group of his students from Capistrano Valley Christian School on an unusual mission trip.  Sean is committed to seeing his students prepared for the challenges they will face in college - so why not take them to hear from professors and students at a local university before they graduate?</p>

<p>That is what Sean did. In fact, he took them to the University of California at Berkeley, a campus notorious for its liberal views. You can see a video about the trip <a href="http://www.conversantlife.com/god-and-culture/evangelism-at-berkeley">here</a>.</p>

<p>(BTW, I especially enjoyed when the Cal-Berkeley professor said, "I hate Josh McDowell!")</p>]]></description>
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            <title>Support Summit Ministries by Shopping Online- at no extra charge to you!</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cvn.org">Christian Values Network</a>: An Exciting New Way to Help to Summit Ministries</p>

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<p>All you have to do is begin all your online shopping at www.cvn.org and a percentage of your everyday shopping will go directly to Summit Ministries. It's that simple! Buy travel, clothes, everyday products, textbooks, MP3's and more.</p>

<p>Just like the millions of others that shop online - you will get the best prices possible at your favorite major stores. Literally hundreds of your favorite stores are available through this program including:</p><ul>
	<ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Music and movie stores like iTtunes, Blockbuster, NetFlix, and F.Y.E.</li><li>Bookstores like Barnes &amp; Noble and Borders </li><li>Everyday stores like Target, Best Buy, Office Depot, and PetSmart </li><li>Travel stores like Expedia, Hotwire, Travelocity, and Orbitz</li><li>Computer stores like Apple Store and Dell </li><li>And so many more! </li></ul></ul></ul></ul></ul><div><br /></div>And you can do it all while never leaving the comforts of your home. When you shop through www.cvn.org, a percentage of your purchase will go to support Summit Ministries! <br /><p></p>

<p>Click <a href="http://cvn.org/index.php?p=user/register_prompt&amp;source=email&amp;segment=169959">here</a> to learn more about Christian Values Network and browse our list of well known, respected and trusted shopping partners and become a member today! Be sure to pick Summit as your chosen ministry.</p><p>Membership is FREE! When you sign up you can begin helping Summit Ministries through your financial support.</p>

<p>Do all of your future online shopping through Christian Values Network and immediately begin helping Summit Ministries!</p>]]></description>
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            <title>Colorado Springs Gazette Letter to the Editor (3/13/09)</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: '-editor-proxy';">The Colorado Springs Gazette published my recent letter to the Editor in the Sunday edition on 3/13. In the letter, I responded to two terrible pieces published in our paper from the L.A. Times. I have copied it below, or you can find it</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; white-space: pre-wrap; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; white-space: normal; "> <a href="http://www.gazette.com/opinion/sunday_49973___article.html/full_letters.html#slComments">here</a>.</span></span></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Report full of misinformation The</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">After reading the Q&amp;A on stem cells and the front-page article from the Los Angeles Times, I was left wondering whether the L.A. Times journalists are merely ill-informed or blatantly committed to misrepresentation ("An issue at intersection of science and politics," The Gazette, March 10). According to these authors, any arguments against embryonic destructive research are merely religious or political, while all arguments in favor are solidly scientific. This is flatly untrue.</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote>

<blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">To suggest adult stem cells are "useful for some kinds of therapies" is to drastically understate what has been the most important medical development in the past few decades. More than 70 conditions have been treated using adult stem cell treatments. </blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">The critique that adult stem cells are "not as versatile" as embryonic stem cells is to ignore the astounding new development in induced pluripotent stem cell research, which offers us this versatility without destroying a human embryo. In fact, a report on May 8, 2008, announced that the virus problem of creating these cells has likely been solved.</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Describing the ethical concerns as only among those "who believe life begins at conception" ignores the scientific fact that life does, in fact, begin at conception. It is not debated whether the embryo is a human life, but whether the embryo is a valuable human life. Those of us who think all human life is valuable are not merely religious, but deeply concerned that we ought not draw a line within the living human race which leaves some members on the outside.</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Finally, one wonders why additional funds should be dedicated to morally and scientifically questionable research, when we are in the throes of the current economic crisis. I know President Barack Obama assumes government is the answer to all our problems. However, in this case he is fabricating a problem that doesn't exist and asking the taxpayer to pay for it, even those of who have strong convictions against it.</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">John Stonestreet, Colorado Springs</blockquote>]]></description>
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            <title>&quot;The Shack&quot;: a helpful review</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few months, I have been asked numerous times if I have read <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Shack-William-P-Young/dp/0964729237/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236884153&amp;sr=8-1">The Shack</a> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">by William P. Young.  My initial reaction is the same as whenever someone asks about the latest, greatest book: "No, I don't read most new books, especially those that are considered the latest and greatest by the most recent Christian celebrity author." </span></em></p><p>I know, I know, that sounds quite critical. It's just that I have found most of these books to be a complete waste of time, frankly. A waste of time to read, and a waste of time to critique.  Typically, they are either mushy foolishness (i.e. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Your Best Life Now</span>), theologically bankrupt (i.e. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Your Best Life Now</span>), or literally inept (i.e. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Your Best Life Now</span>). I know a lot of Christian thinkers really get worked up about these various books. Sometimes they have very good reason to get worked up (i.e. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">A New Kind of Christian</span>), and sometimes they are reducing years off their life for a book that isn't going to make much of an impact a year from now (i.e. <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Your Best Life Now</span>).</p><p>Personally, I am much more concerned about <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">how</span> we are reading than <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">what </span>we reading. Most of the students I work with, in high school and college, show just an utter lack of discernment in both their reading choices and their reading practice. Not that we should just read anything - that is actually my point. When the average Christian cannot tell the difference between good books and bad ones, <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">the bigger problem is with the Christian who is reading and not the book being read.</span></p><p>I offer you two great quotes, and one great book, on this way of thinking: </p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">(1) "For every new book, read three old ones." (C.S. Lewis)</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">(2) "If you still buy the books at the front of the Christian bookstore, stop it." (Kevin Bywater)</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">(3) <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Amusing-Ourselves-Death-Discourse-Business/dp/014303653X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236888334&amp;sr=8-1">Neil Postman, </a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Amusing-Ourselves-Death-Discourse-Business/dp/014303653X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236888334&amp;sr=8-1">Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business</a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Amusing-Ourselves-Death-Discourse-Business/dp/014303653X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236888334&amp;sr=8-1" style=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: none;"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">(Penguin Books, 1985).</span></span></a></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><p>So, due to this, I have happily avoided the Shack. My review of it is simply, "Seriously, have you already read all the really good books out there? Have you made it through all of C.S. Lewis, Augustine's <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Confessions</span>, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Above-All-Earthly-Powrs-Postmodern/dp/0802824552/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236890117&amp;sr=1-6">the four books by David Wells on theology and culture</a>, and Noebel's <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.summit.org/store/product.php?productid=507&amp;cat=0&amp;page=1">Understanding the Times</a></span>?"</p><p>At the same time, I know that for many of the folks asking about it, they need to know because a colleague, friend or family member has been reading it and asking them about it. So, thankfully, a good friend of mine and colleague at Bryan College was confronted with the need to read the book and has written a review.  Dr. Kenneth Turner is an Old Testament scholar and an instructor for the Summit in Tennessee and Virginia. He is also Biblically and theologically astute, a discerning reader, thoughtful, and only alarmist if necessary. </p><p>So, I offer you, with his permission, his take on the book, which I find thoughtful and thorough and a good example of discernment without resorting to mere disdain or embrace. It is not in an official "article" format, but I trust you will be able to navigate it. </p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Thoughts on <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">The Shack <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; ">by Dr. Kenneth Turner</span></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Why I (finally) read it:</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Its general
popularity among Christians and mixed reviews by people I respect (I've heard both claims
and ecstasy and charges of heresy!) put this book in the "should-read-someday"
category. But two recent things made me read it: (1) My wife's best friend's
church is actually doing their Sunday morning services based on this book, and she wanted to converse with her about it; (2) in our Sunday school class
we're discussing the doctrine of God, and I knew this book interacted in that
area.</blockquote></blockquote><p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">As a piece of literature:</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">I found it just
okay. The 1<sup>st</sup> half was better than the 2<sup>nd</sup>, which got a
bit choppy for my taste. A few moments were riveting, even tear-jerking, but
not my cup of tea over all. Preference, I guess, whatever. I tend to be
disappointed after hearing the "hype" of a movie or book.</blockquote></blockquote>

<p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Theological Errors:</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">These are things
that come to mind immediately, and even those who like the book admit these. I
will reflect on the significance of these below.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">(1) </span>God and Trinity - despite the orthodox
statements (one God, three Persons), the portrayal is often modalistic, among
other errors (and I'm not just talking about characterization - see below)</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">- Is "love" God's most basic attribute? - I only
remember holiness mentioned one time</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">- Jesus - only pictured in his state of
humiliation (and extended to the Father and Spirit), not in his state of
exaltation [this may just be due to characterization, so it's not as big a deal
to me]</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">(2) Faulty view of God's Providence, Sovereignty,
Governance</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">(3) </span>For all the talk of "love" (and
"relationship")--which is so central to the book--it is ill-defined at best; I
certainly did not see it consistent with a biblical understanding of love</blockquote></blockquote><p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">(4) </span>Faulty view of the Gospel - all flowing from the
author's embrace of Christian Universalism (you can research both the term
itself and the author's explicit embrace of it)</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New';">- </span>Denial of God's wrath - no hell for anyone</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New';"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New';">- </span>God's (same) love for all men without
distinction - all are God's children; and we are asked to think of God's
relationship to his children in the exact same way as we relate to our children</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New';"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Courier New';">- </span>Inclusivist - along the lines of Christian
Universalism, not universalism in general</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">(5) </span>Rejection of all "authority" and "institutions"
- it's sneaky b/c it starts out rejecting wrong views/applications of these
(e.g., power plays, programs, abuse), but then rejects them outright as not
part of God's design at all (even the Trinity has no hierarchy; neither does
marriage nor the church; in fact, the church seems slighted throughout)</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">(6) </span>The Bible - not sure how the Bible functions
really; I liked the jab at WWJD and other parts, but couldn't grasp a
consistent picture</blockquote></blockquote>

<p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">More could be said,
but these come to mind immediately. Having said all this, I thought the book
did a great job at getting to the essence of sin as independence.* This is
consistent with the book's emphasis on relationship (not all of which I agree
with, but I liked most of it). Of all the theological categories, this one was
most positive to me, and I hope I learned something from it.</blockquote>

<p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">On the Significance of Errors: </blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">(1) I've heard many
say, in response to some of these objections, "It's fiction; it's just a story!"
Yes, it is fiction. No, it is certainly not "just a story."</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">- </span>Fiction - as a piece of fiction, I am willing to
allow for some license. For instance, I had no problem with most of the
characterization, such as Papa being a Black woman. Despite what I said about
Jesus above, I can live with the focused and limited portrayal. I enjoyed the
Spirit's character the best.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">- </span>Just a Story -<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>here's my biggest beef, b/c it's where I think the book is
most dangerous. Because it's a story, many Xns will be drawn into its plot.
Because it has enough connections to orthodox Xty (using much of the same
lingo; rejecting much of the abuse we all have experienced in church and life),
many will be drawn to its appeal against the status quo. But this book is
highly <u>theological</u> in intent; so it cannot be "just" a story. That is,
the author is intentionally (by his own admission) seeking to teach his readers
about God and God's relationship to his creation. Therefore, examination of its
theological claims is mandatory in my mind.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">(2) This may not be the best comparison/contrast,
but consider how we evaluate the theological truth of music.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>A country music song often speaks of
God or Jesus or the devil or prayer. If the song gets the theology wrong, I'm
not offended, b/c God (etc.) is usually being brought in as an add-on to
another point. But I would examine a hymn or praise song differently b/c it is
intended to teach theological truth. <span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>To me, the intent governs how much weight I must give to
evaluation and scrutiny.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Since <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">The Shack</i> is explicitly and
intentionally theological, it merits the criticism.</blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol;">(3) </span>In doing some research, I found it interesting
that the original version of the book was more overt about its universalistic
claims. The editors cut the most blatant statements out, though I think it is
still evident. This goes to show the author's intent.</blockquote></blockquote>

<p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">Final Thoughts: I am all for Christians
discussing a book like this. I am glad for the "help"** some have gotten from it
for their relationship with God. I myself (despite all these negatives) was
moved at times--b/c I never had a good father-figure and especially now that I
have three little girls. But I am fearful that many Christians are not able to be
discerning enough to sift the wheat from the chaff.***<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes">  </span>I am fearful that many will actually embrace the book's
portrayal of God <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">en toto</i>, and the
church will suffer the consequences.</blockquote><div><br /></div><br /><div>Editor's (i.e. Stonestreet) Notes: </div><div>* For more on sin, including sin as independence, see <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Not-Way-Its-Supposed-Be/dp/0802842186/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236889660&amp;sr=8-1">Cornelius Plantinga, </a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Not-Way-Its-Supposed-Be/dp/0802842186/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236889660&amp;sr=8-1">Not the Way It Is Supposed to Be: A Breviary of Sin </a></span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Not-Way-Its-Supposed-Be/dp/0802842186/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236889660&amp;sr=8-1">(Eerdmans, 1985)</a>; </div><div>** I appreciate that Kenneth put "help" in quotes in his final paragraph. In my view, it is somewhat helpful, but not ultimately helpful, to process past hurts. This book has been a catalyst for this, I think. However, evil is only dealt with via redemption, and it is important then to have a correct view of God's offense by evil and God's suffering by evil. If this review is correct, "help" is not fully available in this book. </div><div>*** I share Kenneth's skepticism with the ability of the church to discern well, as we lack real Biblically literacy.</div>]]></description>
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            <description><![CDATA[Today, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-science10-2009mar10,0,6250085.story">the shoddiest piece of journalism I have seen in a long time</a> landed on my front step. The L.A. Times article "Obama Moves to Strengthen Role of Science in Policy" was printed in my Colorado Springs Gazette. It is the most blatant form of secularist "if you don't agree with our science, you are religious and should be dismissed" ideology since John Kerry's presidential campaign.

The "journalists" Jim Tankersley and Noam Levey write:<blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">President Obama made his most forceful break yet from his predecessor's controversial scientific agenda Monday, opening the door to a major expansion of government-funded research on embryonic stem cells and ordering federal agencies to strengthen the role of science in their decision-making. </blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">The twin announcements marked a clear departure from former President George W. Bush's approach to science, which had caused a rift between that administration and a large segment of the nation's research community. Many complained that scientific data had been ignored or skewed as the Bush administration set policy on climate change, oil and gas drilling, and other aspects of environmental and health policy. </blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;">In particular, Bush's limits on federal funding for embryonic stem cell experiments had become a touchstone for many scientists angry at the administration, as well as for advocates for patients who have hoped the research would lead to cures for a wide range of diseases. </blockquote><div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote>The problem here is that few presidents have been as thoroughly vindicated on a particular policy decision as George W. Bush was on his decision to restrict federal funding for embryonic destructive research. For a clear history of this, see the November 2008 article by Joseph Bottum and Ryan Anderson <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=6380">"Stem Cells: A Political History."</a> 

<div><br /></div><div>Where Bottum and Anderson are correct is that with<a href="http://www.stemcellresearch.org/"> the astounding success of adult stem cells</a> (stem cells acquired from sources that do not require the destruction of the embryo), and the <a href="http://www.nature.com/stemcells/2008/0805/080501/full/stemcells.2008.67.html">exciting developments in regard to induced pluripotent cells </a> (non-embryonic cells "reprogrammed" to behave like embryonic stem cells) there remains few scientific reasons, if any, to pursue the ethically questionable research that destroys the most innocent among us. We certainly do not think we should fund every scientific venture with tax dollars. Why this one?</div><div><br /></div><div>Where Bottum and Anderson are wrong is in their suggestion that since this issue was a minor one during the election, it is therefore no longer a political issue.  Clearly, after yesterday's dismal decision by President Obama, it still is. 

</div><div><br /></div><div>This is a decision worse than Roe V. Wade. In cases of abortion, one can at least wrongfully argue that immediate hardship will be alleviated.  In this case, there is no reason to believe any hardship will be alleviated, and certainly not immediately. Not to mention,<em> where on earth are we going to get any federal funds at this time?</em> Has our President forgotten the real crisis now is not that scientists cannot find money (Note: embryonic stem cell research was never banned, contrary to Kerry's claims. President Bush restricted federal funding. States - and many did - and private investors - and very few did since it was such a bad investment - were still allowed to provide funding), it's that our country cannot find money? 

</div><div><br /></div><div>Without all of the ethical questions surrounding this, it is a poor economic decision! It's bad enough that President Obama thinks that all problems need to have government solutions. Now, he is fabricating problems so that the government can solve them! There is no problem anymore! In fact, there never was! 
</div><div><br /></div><div>So, why is this ignored in the "report" by the LA Times? Why are any arguments against embryonic destructive research considered merely religious and political?  Why are all arguments for embryonic destructive research scientific when there remains next to no scientific reasons to pursue it any more? 

</div><div><br /></div><div>(Note also how later in the article, the authors imply that those who oppose global warming do so only for political reasons. Are they unaware how <a href="http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/02/03/global-warming-101-science/">increasingly ridiculous the accusation of human cause global warming is becoming? </a> Are they at least aware that the scientific community has not come to a consensus about this issue?)</div><div><br /></div><div>So, today I, and many Americans, are forced to fund murder and contribute our tax dollars to something which will - in the name of "science" - further our culture of death. Only, it is not science. It is politics. And, it is completely unjustifiable. </div></div>]]></description>
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            <description><![CDATA[<div>Though I have never been able to track down a source, I heard several years ago that Chuck Colson once claimed to have good news and bad news: "The good news is that there are more Christians than ever before; the bad news is, it doesn't seem to be making any difference." According to two studies published today, there is still bad news but no longer any good news.</div><div><br /></div>Two studies published today demonstrate the declining influence of Christianity in America. First, <a href="http://www.americanreligionsurvey-aris.org/">the American Religious Identification Survey </a>showed an overall drop in the numbers who self-identify as "Christian" from 86.2% in 1990 to 76% in 2008.<div><br /></div><div>The upside here is that 90% of this drop comes from mainline denominations who either flirt heavily with liberalism (like Methodists, Presbyterian USA and Lutherans) or have capitulated to it altogether (like Episcopalians and United Church of Christ). The decline among these churches has been steady for a long time, of course, and their demise overdue. </div><div><br /></div><div>If you fail to offer the actual Gospel then there is nothing left to actually offer that someone cannot get elsewhere. Why go hear a boring sermon about being good on weekends when Oprah can help you every afternoon? In fact, the only growth within these denominations has been among those who claim to be "evangelical" or "born again," terms that would cause strong consternation among mainline seminary professors everywhere...</div><div><br /></div><div>The most striking thing reported in the survey, at least in my view, is the growth from these three non-Christian groups: (1) those who identify as non-religious: the number of outright atheists has doubled since 1990 with a total of 12% claiming atheism or agnostism and another 12% deism; (2) New Religious movements such as Wicca, pagan, and scientology grew faster in this decade than in the 90's;  (3) the Muslim proportion of the population has grown to .6%, up from .3% in 1990.</div><div><br /></div><div>Among the Christian population, the growth that has occurred has been among those who claim to be "non-denominational," up to nearly 12% of the population from 5% in 1990. Many of these claim to be "born again" or evangelical." What is not encouraging, however, is placing this growth along side of the stagnation of Christian thinking reported on the <a href="http://www.barna.org/">Barna website</a> today.</div><div><br /></div><div><a href="http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/252-barna-survey-examines-changes-in-worldview-among-christians-over-the-past-13-years">This study</a>, which has been ongoing by the Barna Group since 1995, claims to measure whether Americans have a Biblical worldview. This isn't exactly true, as the questions only measure respondents on <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">theology</span></span> and <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">ethics</span></span>, and not on other significant worldview issues of history, economics, politics, or science. According to the report: </div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(74, 73, 73); font-family: verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><p style="padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 100%; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: transparent; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; background-position: initial initial; ">For the purposes of the survey, a "biblical worldview" was defined as believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today. In the research, anyone who held all of those beliefs was said to have a biblical worldview.</p></span></blockquote>Knowing what Americans and Christian Americans believe about these things is still, of course, helpful. The results, however, are not encouraging. <div><br /><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(74, 73, 73); font-family: verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; ">Overall, the current research revealed that only 9% of all American adults have a biblical worldview. Among the sixty subgroups of respondents that the survey explored was one defined by those who said they have made a personal to commitment to Jesus Christ that is important in their life today and that they are certain that they will go to Heaven after they die only because they confessed their sins and accepted Christ as their savior. Labeled "born again Christians," the study discovered that they were twice as likely as the average adult to possess a biblical worldview. However, that meant that even among born again Christians, less than one out of every five (19%) had such an outlook on life.</span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(74, 73, 73); font-family: verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; color: rgb(74, 73, 73); font-family: verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; ">The same questions were asked of respondents in national surveys by Barna in 1995, 2000 and 2005. The results indicate that the percentage of adults with a biblical worldview, as defined above, has remained unchanged for more than a decade. The numbers show that 7% had such a worldview in 1995, compared to 10% in 2000, 11% in 2005, and 9% now. Even among born again adults, the statistics have remained flat: 18% in 1995, 22% in 2000, 21% in 2005, and 19% today.</span></blockquote><div><br /></div><div>One wonders how dismal the numbers would have been if more substantial worldview question were asked! The lowest numbers, by the way, were among young adults. Less than one half of one percent of those ages 18-23 possessed a Biblical worldview on the questions that were asked in the survey.</div><div><br /></div><div>So, the question remains: why is it that the growth of "evangelicals" and "born agains" is not translating into an improvement in Christian worldview?  In fact, I am not sure it is helpful to call it growth.</div><div><br /></div></div>]]></description>
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            <title>Olasky&apos;s Take on the Prodigal Brothers</title>
            <description><![CDATA[I recently heard Marvin Olasky, writer for <a href="http://www.worldmag.com/">World</a> magazine and provost of <a href="http://www.tkc.edu/">The King's College,</a> deliver a talk on Jesus' parable of the "prodigal son."  Borrowing from his pastor Tim Keller, he rightly noted that it should more accurately be called the parable of the "prodigal sons," since there are two brothers who left their father in the story. <div><br /></div><div>Though he took some liberty with the parable, he suggests that it is helpful to think about how a third son, a non-prodigal might look like in the story. He gave me much to think about, and I was happy to see he had published it <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/MarvinOlasky/2009/02/17/prodigal_sons_part_of_the_evangelical_problem_is_knowing_which_brother_we_are">in article form on Townhall.com</a> this morning. Here is the article in it's entirety:<div><br /></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">As Tim Keller points out in The Prodigal God (Dutton, 2008), the parable of the prodigal son should have a plural in its name: sons. We all know of the younger brother's libertine living, but the elder brother has a more subtle problem: He is self-righteous and lacks joy.</span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">Part of the evangelical political problem in contemporary America is that much of the press and public sees us as elder brothers. Sometimes we are that way in reaction to younger brothers. Sometimes younger brothers go their way in reaction to us.</span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br /></span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; line-height: normal; "><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">In higher education, younger brother colleges are party schools that proffer sex and stimulants. Some Christian colleges try to avoid that by imposing tight rules in elder brother fashion. Those rules may lead to external conformity rather than deep belief. Both younger brother and elder brother colleges divert students from learning more about God.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">In journalism, younger brother magazines ranging from Rolling Stone to People sell a continuation of younger brother college life. Elder brother reporters tend to be self-righteous fault-finders--and it's always someone else's fault. Elder brother journalism lacks love, charity, compassion, and a sense that all of us are in this mess together. Christian publications that look only at sin among secularists can also be elder brothers.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">In the realm of "social justice," younger brothers want governmental redistribution so that everyone, regardless of conduct, gets part of the national inheritance. Some recipients of Washington's largesse are widows and orphans, but others are younger brothers or sisters who should go home but do not because government checks allow them to keep destroying themselves. Elder brothers, though, wax sarcastic about wastrels while they overlook the needy. "Social justice" turns into either social universalism or Social Darwinism.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">The gay rights debate is another younger vs. elder brother combat zone. While covering Manhattan's annual humongous Gay Pride parade I didn't see any lip-locks except when the marchers observed a dozen souls from a church waving Bibles and screaming at them, "You're going to hell, sodomite" or "You're an abomination in the sight of God." The presence of elder brothers allowed younger brothers to feel self-righteous: ironically, ranting reminders about sin provided the opportunity to forget about sin.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">Younger brothers who perceive self-righteousness or joylessness in their elders head toward mockery. On the Comedy Network, Jon Stewart is a snarky younger brother and Stephen Colbert pretends to be an elder as he parodies FOX's tut-tutting Bill O'Reilly. Elder brothers tend to forget that truth without love is like sodium without chloride: Poison, not salt.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">What's rare on television and in life are third brothers who, because they know deeply that the Father loves them, have love for and patience with both elder and younger brothers. Third brothers, knowing they have been forgiven, are not prideful.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">A third brother Christian college helps students to see that all people are made in the image of God and all people are sinners. Because of that, beauty shows up where we expect banality, and evil emerges where we anticipate excellence. At a third brother college students become bilingual and bicultural, able to move in both Christian and secular circles without ignoring the problems of the former or the knowledge generated in the latter, through common grace.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">Third brother journalism rises out of the history lecture in chapter seven of the book of Acts: Stephen, with neither an elder brother's pridefulness nor a younger brother's sarcasm, realistically emphasizes the fallenness of his people and the holiness of God. He does not seek life's meaning in the formation of or adherence to a man-made religion that sets up a code of morality.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">Third brother politics is also different. The Founders fought for both liberty and virtue: Elder brothers tend to forget the former, younger brothers the latter. Third brothers know that we can never have enough laws to banish sin. They tell the truth but do not rant at abortionists and gay rights activists. They control their tongues and lungs not because killing babies and killing marriage is right, but because their goal is to change hearts.</p><p style="padding-top: 0pt; padding-right: 0pt; padding-bottom: 0pt; padding-left: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 1.5em; font-size: medium; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 12px; margin-left: 0px; ">Third brothers ask pointed questions, and here are ones for each of us to answer: Am I a younger, elder, or third brother? Can we, through God's grace, leave behind elder- and younger-brotherism?</p></span></span></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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            <title>Catch my Interview with Ryan Dobson</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Tomorrow (Monday 2/9), I will be on Ryan Dobson's weekly radio show: KORKast radio. Ryan is the son of Dr. James Dobson and a Summit grad from way back. He's a good guy, passionate about students, and super high-energy. Should be a lot of fun.<div><br /></div><div>Ryan's ministry has also just taken over the Brio and Breakaway publications, which were started by Focus on the Family.  Knowing Ryan, I am sure this will mean much more worldview content for these publications. <br /><div><br /></div><div>You can listen live on the Castle Rock Radio site <a href="http://www.castlerockradio.com/pages/page.asp?page_id=47571">here</a>, or you can listen to the podcast on Ryan's site <a href="http://korkastradio.com/">here</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div>]]></description>
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            <title>Young Evangelicals and Politics</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Yesterday, I was interviewed by Hugh Hewitt on the topic of Young Evangelicals and Obama. You can find the archived broadcast <a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/TalkRadio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=5&amp;ContentGuid=a2c0aaa0-f9ed-4414-a72a-2e4d1b2020a9">here</a>.<div><br /></div><div>Also, interviewed on the broadcast was Dr. Albert Mohler, President of Southern Seminary (KY).  Hugh's <a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog">blog entry</a> on the interviews, which includes links to the transcripts, is below.</div><div><br /></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(23, 23, 23); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; "><div class="BlogDate" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; text-decoration: none; line-height: 14px; font-weight: bold; display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><br /></div><div class="BlogDate" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; text-decoration: none; line-height: 14px; font-weight: bold; display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; "><span id="ctl00_cphMain_ucBlogPosts_rptPosts_ctl02_ucPost_lblDate">Tuesday, February 03, 2009</span></div><div id="Headline"><a id="ctl00_cphMain_ucBlogPosts_rptPosts_ctl02_ucPost_hlnkBlogPostTitle" class="BlogHeadline" href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/e8c37adc-ec02-4dbf-bc04-28c07b7b0924" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(157, 40, 40); margin-top: 10px; text-decoration: none; ">Young Evangelicals and Politics</a></div><span class="postedText" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 10px; font-size: 11px; margin-bottom: 8px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 0px; display: block; ">Posted by: <a id="ctl00_cphMain_ucBlogPosts_rptPosts_ctl02_ucPost_hlnkBlogAuthor" class="postedby" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-top: 7px; font-size: 11px; font-weight: bold; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Hugh Hewitt</a> at <span id="ctl00_cphMain_ucBlogPosts_rptPosts_ctl02_ucPost_lblTime">9:36 AM</span></span><div style="margin-bottom: 5px; "></div><div class="blogpost" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 17px; "><a href="http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/21/evangelicals-polls-obama-oped-cx_jz_0122zogby.html">According to a Zogby poll</a>, 28% of Evangelicals aged 18 to 29 voted for Barack Obama.  Four years earlier, only 14% of Evangelicals in that age cohort went for John Kerry.<br /><br />Even though it was an online poll, that's a major shift in a key demographic so yesterday I spent some time asking two leading Evangelicals who work with young men and women what had happened.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog.php">Dr. Albert Mohler</a> is the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and the <a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=a8126ed1-a8a6-4b8b-9a32-23f5a44dc7c5">transcript of our conversation is here</a>.<br /><br />John Stonestreet is the executive director of <a href="http://www.summit.org/about/">Summit Ministries</a>, and the <a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=8fd0a8d2-4079-4766-a747-212ea51181ab">transcript of our conversation is here</a>.  (I'll be speaking at <a href="http://www.summit.org/conferences/adult/colorado/">Summit's adult conference on March 1</a>.)<br /><br />The educators hit some very similar notes, and the challenge for the church going forward is to realize that the old models of raising young people to understand the world are simply broken.<br /><br />If you comment on these conversations, send me the link: <a href="mailto:hugh@hughhewitt.com">hugh@hughhewitt.com</a>.  If Dr. Mohler is correct, the conversation about young evangelicals and politics is going on with great intensity within the age demographic and in a way that is only partially visible to older evangelicals, even those who are moderately well-wired into the community.</div></span></blockquote><div><br /></div>]]></description>
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            <title>The Latest Must Reads for Pro-Lifers from FIRST THINGS: A Journal of Religion, Culture, and Public Life</title>
            <description><![CDATA[Don't miss the two articles by Joseph Bottum and Richard John Neuhaus in the latest issue of <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"><a href="www.firstthings.com">First Things</a>.  </span>Bottum's article makes predictions on where we are headed on the abortion issue under our new president. <a href="http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/viewarticle.php?selectedarticle=2008.10.14.001.pdart">A similar argument, by the way, was posited by Princeton University's Robert George before the election</a>. <div><br /></div><div>The article by Richard John Neuhaus interestingly connects the rights of pro-lifers with the politics of the 60's. Sadly, this is also the last article by Neuhaus, the founder of <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">First Things</span> and an articulate spokesperson for Christian conservatism since he abandoned his leftist leanings after Roe v. Wade. He passed away this morning.</div><div><br /></div><div><a href="http://www.firstthings.com/">Both articles can be found here.</a></div>]]></description>
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